doesn't include c-span, pbs and online. could be almost 60 million people. half the number of people that voted in november. he was particularly stronger in the beginning. viewership is higher at beginning of the program. beginning of the program also sets the tone. he was very strong in his opening statement. the object was to reassure the undecided voters, i have a plan the plan is common sense and practical. i'm going to be bipartisan. i will bring the country together and try to do the big things that will make your life better, increase paychecks an jobs. i think he did a good job of it. if you look back at it, the biggest pickup in a presidential debate was walter mondale in '84 picked up less than four points. governor bush of texas in 2000. john kerry in 2004. governor ronald reagan in 1980 all picked up three points in the polls from the beginning of the debate ceres to the end. reagan only hat one debate. the first debate is the one that tends to set the tone. melissa: it sets the tone. he got a lot of good details out people were looking for. we h